IA timeline

The information in this article is from a fan game or fan fiction and is therefore not canon.

The IA timeline by Klytos of Infamous Adventures.[1]

For official KQ timeline variants, see King's Quest Timeline.

The IA timeline timeline is an unofficial timeline concerning King's Quest games by Infamous Adventurers (King's Quest III Remake (Infamous Adventures) from Infamous Adventures.

The development created their own timeline which adds quite a bit of tongue in cheek bits (these are included for completeness). It apparently reimagines the placement of Kingdom of Sorrow novel making Rosella older than she was in book.

AW is presumably After Wedding (honeymoon). This timeline uses BW = Before Wedding. Incidently that would make much of KQ2 roughly take place within 1 BW technically before the “era” change.

Since the exact dates for when KQ1 and KQ2 took place are unclear it’s difficult to have exact placements on the timeline, however because manual uses Annette Childs prologue, it’s likely following her other backstories as well. Which places KQ2 about one year after KQ1.

If AW means after “after wedding” (honeymoon) then it places ending of KQ2, in the previous year before Klytos’ timeline begins.

Because bulk of KQ2 takes place before era change (honeymoon) it makes it unclear how it fits in relation to KQ1. The first interpretation is that era is simply renamed but year ends and begins in December/January as is usual case. However, if new year corresponds with honeymoon it becomes more confusing. Does KQ2 techncially fit within the same year as KQ2 “1 BW” (roughly 1 year apart, the beginning and ending of the same restructured old era year) or does KQ1 take place in “2 BW” 1 year before the restructured year.

For simplicity sake this timeline follows idea that the era was simply renamed, but years are not restructured around the event. So that December is still the end of year and January is beginning. Since months names are not used only seasons are considered as evidence when a story takes place.

This timeline places KQ7 about 23 to 26 years after KQ1 (KQ7 takes place before KQ4 if KQ7 references are taken into account). Which would would be anachronistically before KQ4, KQ5, and KQ6. So it is more likely that developers instead reimagine KQ7 taking place when Rosella is older.

Some from Infamous Adventure's team have supported the idea that KQ7 takes place after KQ4, but before KQ5 and KQ6. This timeline lists both this interpretation for KQ7, as well the traditional order of the series.

For comparison; the AGDI timeline places KQ7 about 22 years after KQ1, the POS timeline places KQ7 at about 24 years after KQ1. The IS timeline places KQ7 about 22 years after KQ1.

Timeline

Variant A

• 80 BW

The old gnome is born.

• 1 BW

Graham travels through Daventry to find the three treasures of Daventry, and then becomes king.

• 1 AW

Graham travels to Kolyma and saves the Valanice, and marries her.

Graham and Valanice go on their honeymoon after the wedding, and consummate their marriage… beginning a new era for King Graham.

• 2 AW

Graham forgets to use protection, and impregnates Valanice.

One week later, Graham executes his Fairy Godmother (unofficial) for not preventing Valanice from getting pregnant.

Nine months later, Rosella and Alexander are born in Daventry.

• 3 AW

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Alexander, still a young baby, is kidnapped from Castle Daventry by the castle Maid, and brought to dock in Daventry and given to Manannan. The maid is promptly killed, and Alexander kidnaps the child back to Llewdor.

The family and many of kingdom searched everywhere, but found no clues to the prince's whereabouts.

Valanice subsequently begins her yearly suicide attempts.

The twins turn one year old.

• 4 AW

In the spring, Graham rode out, with the help of his people to search for clues about his son (this became a kind of tradition, he followed each spring).

The twins turn two years old.

• 5 AW

Manannan finishes potty training Alexander.

The twins turn three years old.

• 8 AW

Manannan goes on a long trip to try and discover why Alexander is still wetting the bed.

The twins turn six years old.

• 12 AW

The Long Winter

Graham rescues Aorina and winter finishes. Graham effort saves a party.

Rosella and Alexander turn ten (Note: Rosella was seven in the original novel).

• 17 AW

Alexander begins to mature, and discovers hair where had none before. He asks his master about it and is told that it is evil, and caused by his parents death.

The twins turn fifteen years old.

• 18 AW

Alexander visits the tavern on a regular shopping visit only to discover that the barmaid is buxom, and he has feelings he has never felt before. Several hours later, Alexander discovers how to deal with those feelings.

The twins turn sixteen years old.

• 19 AW

Alexander and Rosella turn seventeen.

• 20 AW

Manannan goes on a trip.

For the final time, Graham and the people of the kingdom rode out during the spring for their yearly search, for any clues regarding the whereabouts of Alexander.

Alexander-Gwydion escapes from Manannan during late summer a few weeks before his eighteenth birthday.

Rosella is chosen as the sacrifice to a three-headed dragon.

Over the course of a few days, Gwydion learned his true identity, Alexander, returned to Daventry to defeat the three-headed dragon, and saved Rosella. He returned to the castle to meet his parents outside its gates.

Graham changed into some of Grahams old clothes, to be presentable and fit proper etiquette for a Prince of the Blood.

Over, the next six weeks, the Royal Family and the people of Daventry begin work on rebuilding the kingdom, there was much work to be done. During this time Alexander spends time with his family, learning about the kingdom. Father and son bond over the sweaty manual labour.

Meanwhile, the woodcutter makes love to his wife inside of his house.

Alexander and Rosella turn eighteen.

• 22 AW

Alexander and Rosella turn twenty (this was roughly the age where original timeline placed KQ7).

• 23 AW

Some time later, following the kingdom's repairs, Alexander and Rosella are called into the throne room where Graham throws his hat to his children. During which he is struck by a heart attack. Rosella travels to Tamir to save her father.

Some time later, Mordack travels to Llewdor to rescue his brother, and burns down his brother's house. Derek Karlavaegen (unofficial) dies in the fire.

Note: This is earliest point when KQ7 can take place in this timeline in order to follow events of KQ4. Depending on the members of IA’s staff KQ7 may or may not be a prequel taking place before KQ5 and KQ6.

Alexander and Rosella turn twenty-one.

• 24 AW

Almost a year after being saved (according to KQ5 manual) Graham takes a walk through the forest of Daventry. While he is gone, Mordack appears, uses magic to steal Castle Daventry, and kidnaps the Royal Family. Graham travels to Serenia and saves his family. Alexander meets Cassima.

Alexander and Rosella turn twenty-two.

• 25 AW

Nearly six months later, Alexander travels to the Green Isles where he rescues Cassima from Abdul Alhazred.

Alexander and Rosella turn twenty-three.

Some point later (following KQ4), Rosella and Valanice travel to Eldritch and save Etheria (in the original games Rosella was almost 20, but apparently older in this timeline).

Some time later Connor saves the kingdom.

Unknown or unclear dates

The specific dates for KQ1 and KQ8 are unknown, and time frame of KQ2 is unclear, but roughly 1 year before twins are conceived, assuming AW and KQ2 are same date and Graham married Valanice directly after saving her” without a few years passing between when he saved her and marrying her (giving them a chance to court each other). Beyond that even KQ4's timing is unclear (Klytos suggests that KQ4 begins some 3 years after KQ3). However, that seems to contradict the internal dates given in KQ7 itself, which tells us that Rosella is only 19 during the story. Which seems to mean in this timeline ignores the internal date in the game, making Rosella 20-24 in this timeline at the time of KQ7. This leaves KQ7’s position in this timeline unclear if it takes place before or after KQ6.

The placement of KQ5 in relation to KQ4, is unclear and could be anywhere from directly after KQ4 in this timeline (noting that in this timeline it’s been several years since kingdom had undergone repair) to keeping the 1 year after KQ4 date as per KQ5 and KQ8 manuals. Likewise neither is it clear when the date of when KQ6 takes place, if it maintains the six month after date from the game or some other variant (1 year after or later, of fewer months after).

In official sources the twins birth is usually said to have been born either 1 or 2 years after KQ2 (depending on the source), and KQ1 takes place between 1 or 3 years before KQ2 (depending on the manual sources).

Converted to the AW system KQ1 would have been 1 BW (as per KQ2 manual) or 3 BW (as per the KQ4 manual).

In IA’s timeline date of the twins birth appears to be about 1 year after KQ2’s wedding (honeymoon). Assuming 1AW is year 1 of this timeline (following normal historical dating conventions).

The net outcome of reference, depending on official sources, the twins are born between 2-6 years after KQ1. IA appears to have went with their own idea in this case, for when twins were born in relationship to KQ2. However the placement of KQ1 is left unknown (depending on sources it’s placement is often 1, 3, or several years before KQ2.

Since the KQ3VGA manual sticks to the Annette Childs prologues the above timeline more or less sticks to the OT timeline for date of KQ1 in relation to KQ2 for simplicity sake.

Technically, the "some time later" ending in IA’s KQ3 is a reference that suggests several weeks, a few months, to at most a year. However, according to Krytos’ timeline the some time later takes place three years after.

Some from Infamous Adventure's team have supported the idea that KQ7 is a prequel to KQ5 and KQ6, but would have to take place after KQ4. This placement for KQ7 has been included in the timeline noting this possible interpretation.

Krytos's timeline pushes KQ4 as late as 23 AW, and thus pushing later games still further (this would consequently put KQ7 before KQ4 chronologically if IA timeline used KQ7’s internal date). However, that doesn't quite fit the details of KQ7, in which it portrays Rosella's second meeting with Edgar, and set after Lolotte's defeat (when she is 19). If it takes place directly after KQ4, it would make Rosella almost twenty-one in KQ7 (ignoring the intro to that game which states she is almost twenty).

During the hat toss ceremony Alexander wears fancy rich clothing (as opposed to his slave clothes), this is to show that some time had passed (in KQ4, Alexander clearly is wearing his slave clothes showing that he has just returned home).

In KQ3 IA, Alexander states that only a few days have passed between the time he learned his true identity, and traveling to Daventry. This means that his journey across the sea was short indeed (and confirms that the game takes place over the course of a few days). In Klytos timeline he compresses the time from when Alexander attempted his escape, to reuniting with his family in just a couple of hours (this is a nod to the in-game timer).

Notes

The bulk of events KQ3 (IA) take place when Alexander is 17 years old, having been kidnapped almost 18 years before. He is only a few weeks from his eighteenth birthday. IA’s timeline by Klytos fills in other details.

The rest of this timeline assumes the official dates given in internal game sources for KQ5-7 (and related manuals) where applicable. KQ5 is about one year after KQ4 (KQ5/KQ8 manual), KQ6 is about six months after KQ5 (according to Cassima in KQ6), and that KQ7 occurs shortly before Rosella's twentieth birthday (see KQ7 intro). KQ2 is twenty years before KQ3 (according to KQ5's About KQ5).

Like original KQ3, IA's remake occurs in the late summer (the squirrels are preparing for coming winter, and weather is getting colder), within a few weeks of the twin's birthday. It This means that the twins birthday is either late summer/early fall (the KQ novels placed the birthday in early fall).

While there are few specific dates given the timeline, it differs from the official timeline in one major way. Some time passes between the time Alexander returns to the castle and has his family reunion, to the time that King Graham decides to give away his adventure's cap, in which Alexander has time to change clothes, helps repair the kingdom, giving Alexander plenty of time to get to know his father before the events of the King's Quest 4.

In the original Alexander and Rosella return directly from Land of the Clouds, enter the castle where they have reunion, which leads directly to the hat toss (where KQ4 begins), the shock of happiness of their recent return that caused his heart attacks, and that he hadn't lost his children (these events take place in span of approximately an hour). There isn't even enough time change change.

During the hat toss ceremony Alexander has changed into fancy rich clothing (as opposed to slave clothes he traveled to Daventry in), this is to show that some time had passed between the two events. In KQ4, Alexander clearly is wearing his slave clothes, and hasn't had time to change, showing that he has just returned home.

Not only does the change of the ending, affect the timing of original KQ3 and KQ4 (multiple sources state that endings takes place shortly after the rescue of Rosella, on the same day, as shown in KQ3). The timing also causes a ripple effect which affects several other given dates for later games in the series; i.e. pushing KQ4 several months after KQ3, would push KQ4 into the winter months (official KQ3 and KQ4 actually took place during the summer a few weeks before the twins birthday), this would actually set KQ4 after the twins birthday, and Rosella would be 18 (yet several sources including KQ3, state that the twins were a few weeks short of eighteen during KQ3/KQ4). Going further KQ5 is stated to take place nearly a year after KQ4 during the spring in KQ5 manual (if KQ4 takes place during the winter as IA's KQ3 pushes it, this would push KQ5 to taking place during the summer or early fall).

Alternatively if ending pushes KQ4 several years after KQ3, it pushes other hard dates given in the the official games out of position as well.

That being said there is one line from KQ5 manual that could imply that KQ4 takes place several years after KQ3 if taken out of context. Though in About KQ5 it is clear it takes place directly after KQ3.

The exact season when Alexander was kidnapped in IA's timeline is unclear (it could still be in the fall or as much as late winter 3 AW). The scene however shows a relatively green, abeit rainy environment (suggesting spring/summer). The baby Alexander, still appears be under a year old during the cutscene. Considering, that both the narrator, and Manannan are specific that Alexander was kidnapped 17 years ('calander years') before the game exactly, it would suggest that he was probably kidnapped about six months to a year after his birth (or closer to 4 AW).

Seasonally, Daventry appears to be quite dry in the "rebuilding Daventry"/woodcutter's cottage scene (showing potential summer/fall type environment.)

While the development team gives a date for their game in relation to Kingdom of Sorrow, but they have chosen to make her older than she was in the book (she had just turned 7 in the previous fall). This may have had significance in their cancelled game.

The current dates as they are given (in Krytos' timeline, and KQ7 itself) would force KQ7 to be before the ending of KQ3, and thus take place before KQ5 and KQ6. Otherwise the date in the game simply ignored and she is older in this universe.

Misc. Notes

Some other differences include;

Who kidnapped Alexander and when the kidnapping took place, and why he was kidnapped. Alexander is kidnapped by a Maid rather than Manannan himself. When the kidnapping took place, and why he was kidnapped are different as well.

Additionally, it is shown that some time later, Mordack teleports to Manannan's house to retrive his brother and burns the house to the ground. This is contrary to the offical timeline where the house was never burned down. Not long after the events of KQ3 the house became the home of Derek Karlavaegen. He did not find any sign of the feline Manannan. He continued to live there at least up until the time of KQ7 (using the Eye Between the Worlds).

Many new events not seen in the original version of the game exist as well.